Intergenerational financial Trauma healing for Financial Freedom with Meenadchi

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Have you heard the myths surrounding intergenerational trauma and money trauma?

As female entrepreneurs, it’s common to struggle with a negative money mindset due to inherited beliefs from past generations.

But, it’s time to bust those myths and rewrite your financial story.

Myth #1: Money is the root of all evil.

Myth #2: Rich people are greedy and selfish.

Myth #3: You have to work hard to earn money.

Our guest, Meenadchi, will share the truth about intergenerational trauma and money trauma, and how to overcome it for financial freedom. Are you ready to break free from these limiting beliefs and create abundance in your life?

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Money is a neutral entity, an energetic entity that really wants to show up for us as a resource. – Meenadchi

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the connection between family constellations and financial mindset for personal growth.

  • Understand how family and societal beliefs impact your relationship with money.

  • Learn about intergenerational trauma and its influence on money-related struggles.

  • Recognize the importance of challenging limiting beliefs to pave the way for financial success.

  • Explore the benefits of family constellations therapy in achieving financial freedom.

 

About our Guest

Get ready to meet the inspiring Meenadchi, a dedicated entrepreneur passionate about helping people break the cycle of intergenerational and money trauma. With a background rooted in a family that modeled financial stability and generosity, Meenadchi realized the importance of having a values-based approach to money. Her personal journey led her to explore various modalities for healing, ultimately discovering Family Constellation Therapy to be the key in unlocking her clients’ potential for financial success. Through her empathetic guidance and the transformative power of this therapy, Meenadchi helps individuals build the foundation for a healthier relationship with money, enabling them to thrive and achieve financial freedom.

 

Intergenerational Financial Trauma Healing Take aways

The importance of healing money trauma
Healing money trauma involves addressing the emotional and psychological aspects of one’s relationship with money. This often means confronting past experiences, reworking subconscious beliefs and identifying unhealthy emotional patterns related to finances. Healing money trauma is essential for individuals seeking to achieve financial well-being and build a stable financial foundation. In the interview, Meenadchi emphasizes the importance of healing as a crucial step towards financial freedom. Through her work as a family constellation therapist, she helps clients identify and address the impact of money trauma on their lives and encourages them to challenge their internalized beliefs about money. This process allows clients to create a healthier money mindset and paves the way for lasting financial success.

The power of challenging beliefs around money
Challenging limiting beliefs about money is essential for fostering a healthier relationship with finances. By questioning ingrained beliefs and reassessing one’s financial mindset, individuals can open up to new possibilities and opportunities in their money journey. During the conversation, Meenadchi highlights the importance of questioning and examining one’s own beliefs about money in order to create change. She shares her experience of redefining her own relationship with money, and how this transformation enabled her to thrive as an entrepreneur. Meenadchi emphasizes the power of challenging beliefs, and how this process can lead to significant shifts in one’s financial situation and overall well-being.

Moving from fear vs. desire
Many individuals facing money-related challenges often make decisions based on fear rather than desire, leading to an unfulfilling financial situation. Taking control of one’s financial destiny requires shifting from reacting to fear to focusing on genuine desires and ambitions in relation to money. Meenadchi shares her insights into how moving from fear to desire can positively impact an individual’s relationship with money. She speaks about the importance of recognizing one’s true desires and aligning financial decisions with these intentions, rather than being driven by fear-based limitations. By prioritizing desire over fear, individuals are more likely to experience financial satisfaction and create a life that truly fulfills them.

Full Episode’s Transcription

00:00:00
Have you ever wondered how the dynamics of your family, generations after generations, play out in your own money mindset and your own money results with your business? We are going to address that in today’s episode with an amazing guest that I have for you. But before, don’t forget to subscribe and like this channel for more interviews like this. Here in the The Money Mindset Hub, we make everything for you as a female entrepreneur to change and shift your mind so that you can achieve financial success faster. So if you are in your way to increase your income and better your relationship with money, just hit that subscribe button and listen to our podcast and all of the videos that we have for you every week.

00:00:45
It’s really good to be here. Thank you for having me. I’m so excited. For folks who are listening, my name is Minaji. I share her pronouns and I use a couple of different modalities.

00:00:56
But when it comes to money, I use family constellation therapy to help people clear out a bunch of intergenerational gunk that has to do with how or why they are not allowed to have and receive and be it in alignment with money in a values oriented way. My God, I’m already want to ask you so many questions about how many constellations, but let’s just start introducing to people on your story and why you came to really do this combination that is not traditional at all with money. Yeah, okay. So my story, I think if we start in childhood, I had a good money story in childhood. I grew up in a very safe home that’s my mother was the predominant breadwinner and she made sure everything was always taken care of for the entire family.

00:01:55
In addition to having a sense of physical stability, I also saw the way that she moved with abundance in terms of there were often people staying in her house. My family is from Sri Lanka, so it was at the beginning of the war. So there were often refugees who were moving through the Bay Area in terms of just asylum journeys. So people were always over. It felt like the home was always a place where people were welcomed to be and resources were meant to be used in support of the community.

00:02:24
And I think the biggest thing that I saw my Amadu was that she never loaned anybody money, she only ever gave. So it was really this idea of work with what you have and then when you have overflow, you can give. It’s not about trying to get it back or something like that. And my own life story, I went into the arts, I went into a nonprofit. I got accustomed to living without a lot of money and also feeling really angry about the way systems are set up and the way there’s inequity in terms of access to resources.

00:03:05
And I began to get really angry about all of those things. And I think that for me, I think one of the very common money myths that is out there is that money is inherently evil. And I really began to believe that and really began to feel like that was true. And then I started working with some money coaches. I met some queer money coaches, some people, queer women of color who were doing magic with money.

00:03:35
And things started to change again for me and I started to feel, I started to believe some of the things that I had heard about money being a neutral entity, about money being an energetic entity that really wants to show up for us as a resource. And when some of that stuff finally started integrating with my nervous system, my own abundance started to move and flow. And then as I began to facilitate work for folks, it also began to show up there where I began to see just facilitating work for folks and then having folks come back and say that they’d had the most lucrative day in their business the day after we worked together, or that they felt like, oh, my gosh, I can fight for what I believe in, and I can have access to the material stability. And the two are not at odds with each other. And that felt really good too.

00:04:32
Oh my God, I want to unpack so many things of what you just said, but especially this last part when you said that your nervous system started to embody what you already heard and knew to be something different. Right. This is so important. And right now, before jumping in this interview, I was actually recording a whole episode of the podcast about emotional regulation. It’s like everything changes when you understand that your nervous system and you need to be in an emotional, regulated space for you to embody what you already know with money and to give open the gates for that to change.

00:05:20
And then you said my clients started to see that change too. I find that so fascinating because just like you, I also experienced the same when I went to school and when I had my finance degree and when I check all the boxes to learn how to manage money. In no part of the equation was, hey, there is this new layer that you need to find, that you need to work with, which is your emotional side of money that triggers you, that puts that or triggers that anger within you. It’s not just about, oh, I feel anger per se, it’s a topic, it’s an object that triggers you. And that emotion it’s not even talked about.

00:06:13
So I love that you mentioned that your nervous system started to regulate to it. So talk to us a little bit on how you really experience that regulation. Yeah, so one of the principles that I learned is that money will always amplify what’s in the system. So if what’s in the individual nervous system or what’s in the intergenerational nervous system is like a flog or a knot of trauma or just any kind of we all have limiting beliefs. Doesn’t matter how much work you do.

00:06:53
So what money does is it comes into the nervous system and then it amplifies. That right. So.

00:07:03
As for my own self, as I have started getting I don’t know if I want to say good with money, but better with money, safer with money, more trusting of money. It both flows in with a lot more ease and it flows out with a lot more ease that there is a fluidity to it which is really what money is supposed to be like. If you think of our society or community like a human body, blood is meant to circulate and it’s meant to move throughout the body. It’s meant to be in nourishment, just like in the human nervous system, there are times when we need blood to move faster, like when we’re running or when there’s like a crisis, something is going on. So there are times when blood can just chill out, go a little bit slower, bring the heart rate down and money is the same.

00:07:53
And I don’t know if I may answering the question anymore because that’s just thinking about this. Love it, love it. But I think for me and I think for me specifically as a small business owner, as an entrepreneur, as a self employed person, money still freaks me out sometimes. Last month my business did 21K, which was excellent, so wonderful, so good. This month so far I’ve probably hit $300.

00:08:21
I know that there’s pieces of my nervous system that are like but the large majority of my nervous system now trusts and knows that things are going to come in and it’s going to be okay because I do good work and because money wants to be with me and money wants to be in the accompaniment of that work. And because I’ve seen it so much now with my clients. Because for me, just there’s a difference between how a therapist still needs a therapist. Just because there’s something that you can facilitate for somebody else. You still got to have somebody holding the space for you.

00:08:53
When I facilitate work for clients, it shows up like magic how much money just wants to be with them and love them and support them. And it’s so beautiful to watch when that nervous system gunk does get cleared out. And I want to add something else too, just like blood. That example, I loved how you put that example because it really is like that. It just flows and sometimes your heart needs to pump faster and it gives blood to run or whatever what you said.

00:09:24
But also notice the fact that you always have blood. You never run out of it. You never ever are thinking am I going to have enough blood? Or not. You are certain of that?

00:09:41
I absolutely love this example because just like that it’s money. What would you ever think? I’m not going to walk today because I’m saving the reserves of blood for tomorrow. So I don’t know. I can do whatever tomorrow better.

00:10:06
No, you are not thinking that. You are thinking tomorrow I’m going to do this thing that I want to do and today I’m going to do this other thing that I want to do as well. So you are never thinking from a place of lack with your own blood, with your own body. Yet you are so smart and your brain is so smart with it that it gives abundantly when it has to give, when you desire. Because this is the thing I say when it has to give.

00:10:39
But you are creating that necessity. You are telling subconsciously to your brain, I need more blood on my legs because I’m going to run. So it’s giving you what you are asking a subconscious level without really worrying about it. I am having like a breakthrough with your example right now. I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m going to use this one from now on.

00:11:02
I completely love it. But to the point of my question, which I already forgot, my question was how you really notice that regulation. I think you have said it right. You notice it also through your clients. And this is the beauty of the work.

00:11:19
Every female entrepreneur, especially as a woman that have small businesses, we have a roller coaster going of, okay, emotional roller coaster, mental roller coaster and a strategy roller coaster. And this is the work that I do and this is what the programs that I do are based on. Because at no point we are being taught how to manage our own emotions, but also how to think when the results that we think we are going to have, we plan, we are going to have, we desire that we are going to have don’t show up. There is a whole narrative that comes with that that unfortunately or fortunately only it’s stronger when it’s a female entrepreneur because I have male clients and they’re like, shit, they happen. Okay, let’s try it tomorrow.

00:12:23
It’s less emotional. We are emotional beings biologically. So it is so hard and oh my God, it’s beautiful to unpack. So I want to ask you now how constellations came into this panorama of things. Okay, I have one piece, I think, and then I’m going to loop back to this question.

00:12:53
So don’t let me forget it. I was thinking about the I really like the parallel that you were making about how our body always generates enough blood and we never think about do I need to get more blood? But we are often scrambling more resources and for money and feeling like it’s never going to be enough.

00:13:15
And some of what you were sharing about just the experiences you’ve had in gender differences of how male clients respond versus like female clients. And I think it’s because again, there’s different dynamics. We’re all navigating in the world and the more marginalized our identities are, the more stressors there are and the more difficulty there can be in believing that the world really wants us here and that abundance really wants to show up for us. Which is why I think it’s so important a, to have practitioners of different ethnicities, racial backgrounds, class backgrounds, gender identities, so that you can actually it’s really different. For example, it would be different for a trans client to hear me say that money is available versus to be able to hear it from a trans coach who can really reflect their lived identity.

00:14:19
The nervous system takes information in when we can see ourselves reflected in the truth. So it’s so important to find the right resources. And the thing that’s so weird about the nervous system is that when our nervous system is really activated, it’s hard to even believe that resources are available. And I think weaving in the constellation stuff I love family constellation work period because it was the first modality. There’s this thing that hurt people, right?

00:14:51
And this idea that stuff when people are again, just like all the different forms of harm or impact or unkindness that can happen in a family occur, it’s because there’s something higher up in the lineage that has created the context for that. And that’s like an intellectual thing. But for me, family constellation work was the first time I really felt it in my body of oh, this really isn’t about me. And there’s lots of interesting loyalties. People often think that people don’t often recognize the kind of unconscious agreements that we’re often carrying to, for example, remain small or not shine or not receive.

00:15:40
Particularly if we’ve come from lineages where there have been people who haven’t been allowed to safely receive or haven’t been allowed to safely shine or something. And so then our unconscious loyalties keep us playing small and thinking that this is how we need to behave in order to be loyal to the lineage. Like I’m going to betray my ancestors if I have more then my parents never had it. We’re never able to go on vacation. And so here I am planning four vacations a year.

00:16:12
I’m betraying my people. And I think that’s the kind of stuff that we often don’t even realize is present, that constellation work really comes in and get that stuff out. Can we just talk about how much? And this is part of the money story that we call right, it’s part of your money story. How much subconsciously you are taking, let me rephrase that.

00:16:40
Know how much? 90% of the things that you are taking are coming from your parents. And just like you, their 90% of the things that they do with money are coming from their parents. So therefore your grandparents and so on and so forth. And it just becomes this whole subconscious network of lack.

00:17:06
If you have always been on the lack and you are subconsciously walking in the lack. And when I say lack, I don’t mean physical lack, because that is one paraphrase, but I also refer to the mental lack. I come from a background with a lot of mental lack. My father is a fisherman from Colombia, from an island that nobody knows. And he was the first one to go out and study.

00:17:38
All of the brothers gave up on his study so he could go to university. They took him out of beach, he’s lovely beach. And they say, okay, you need to go and study. He went for university study as an accountant. So there is a lot of luck there, because although he was the one that made it outside of the island, when he came to the city, you are just a fisherman.

00:18:10
You are like nothing. That is mental lack. Although he created everything for himself, along with my mother and everything, there is a lot of mental lack. There is a lot of you just need to save because right now that you are getting, because there is always another shoe that is going to drop, you need to be ready. And that’s the way I grew up.

00:18:35
I didn’t lack anything physically, but mentally it’s challenging. And then if I tell you the lack that is coming from my family, from my mother side, it’s also mind blowing. I come from a lineage where my great grandparents I adore. It was my best friend, my great grandpa. We used to sit down and tell his stories and he never finished high school, never traveled outside of Colombia, but because of him, I travel.

00:19:07
He used to tell me stories about how Venice looked like. And I don’t know where he read it, I don’t know if it was his imagination, but Venice looks exactly like he would tell me. I got a lot of abundance from that side. But it was a family of 13 kids surviving with whatever the ground in that moment in Colombia. It wasn’t like you make a lot of money and 13 kids, no money.

00:19:41
It’s a lot of money with 13 kids. It’s so interesting. I really had to learn about that to allow myself to do different. My dad also comes from a fishing village and I think by the time nobody in his generation were fisher folk, but one generation above, they were. And there is emma also became an accountant.

00:20:14
And he hated it. Hate, disast. It wasn’t that the vibe was not right for his life path. And there’s this thing that happens when we’re moving from Scarcity as opposed to moving from Desire, right? And I don’t know if this is necessarily true for you, but I know that in my bus case, he was told by his older brother that this was what he needed to do, or that he had his dreams of what he wanted to do.

00:20:40
And because of what was deemed appropriate at the time, and safe, responsible, et cetera, his older brother, who was at that point the caretaker of the family, said, no, if you do any of those things, you’ll be cut off and you won’t have access to resources. And so he made the safer or responsible choice. He cut himself off from his dreams, and it has a really disastrous ending because he’s been so unhappy for the rest of his life. And when we think about choices that are made and this is often the things that happens, or it’s like the work that we’re looking at in family constellation, work of what are the ways that you have made choices for somebody else’s sake in the lineage? Because this is what your parents said, or this was the dream of somebody else, somebody else dreamt of getting out of the village and living this kind of big life.

00:21:35
But that’s not actually what you want. What you want is you want to be able to travel, or you want to be able to do this, or you just want to stay and be a fisher person. You’re good. And then the thing that happens is that scarcity gets embedded in the system. And how you were saying right then, even though you didn’t actually physically grow up with scarcity, there was always that scarcity in the brain.

00:21:58
Because, again, I think because that’s what happens when we’re moving from fear as opposed to moving from desire, opposed to moving from trust, as opposed to moving from, really the belief that the universe wants us here and that the universe is on our side and that money, resources, love, whatever it is, all of those things want to be here for us.

00:22:21
Yes, I couldn’t agree more with everything that you are saying. And I think for my father, my father is not a person that I talk a lot because he is very close. For what I know of his story, he did want to become an accountant. And you can see, right, this is what he wanted to be. However, I don’t know if the place is where he wanted to be.

00:22:49
In an ideal world, he will be his profession, doing whatever he wanted to do back on his town. And I feel that in so many levels, because now that I travel a lot, it got a point where I would say it would be so nice to be back home with your family or your customs. It’s a very stupid example, very simple, but sometimes I just want to go to my mom’s house and know that I’m going to find rice with eggs, which is my favorite plate. And nobody’s going to look at me like, are you rice with eggs? I’m like, yes, I’m Colombia.

00:23:28
That’s the best dish that you can have right and you cannot get that from anywhere else, which is not your house, your home, your customs. I understand that in so many levels, but also traveling has opened my mind to understand that the moment that you leave, your identity change as well. So when you go back, it’s not like you’re going to fit in, right? So it’s also understanding the differences. And it’s the same for him.

00:24:00
He says, oh, I want to go back to my beach. Whenever he gets the time to go there after, I don’t know, a month or two, he’s, okay, I’m missing my home. So he goes back. So I think it’s a part of different layers there. But one of the things that I really resonated with you on what you just shared was the fact that everybody is putting their own beliefs or subconsciously, of course, it’s not like consciously this.

00:24:34
They are transmitting their desires and their beliefs somehow in your home brain, in your own being. And it’s up to you whether you take them on or not. And this is huge with money. It’s like it’s a whole new world when you understand that people subconsciously, they’re just talking to themselves always.

00:25:04
It’s always like that. But you are not really talking. You’re not really telling me what to do because you are thinking from my being. There’s no way that you can do that. You are talking from your experience, what was truth for you, and then you, as the person receiving that information, can make a decision.

00:25:31
However, because money is so taboo and nobody has questioned it ever before, you take that information as truth, and you don’t put your gates up and say, wait, I understand that this person is coming from this background. And that’s why it was truth for, let’s say, my father, he has lived these experiences and this belief was what he needed to survive, right? It’s not truth for me anymore because thanks to that, now I’m in a different situation.

00:26:14
I love this. And the thing that popped for me is how much we’re always looking for safety, how much the nervous system, the heart is always looking for a sense of both belonging and safety. And one of the things that I so the other modality that I use is nonviolent communication. And one of the things that I teach there is that money is not necessarily an inherent need, but it is a strategy to get needs met. And that in our current world, it is a strategy that meets the need for ease.

00:26:55
Because in the absence of having money, what we need is relationship. And relationship takes time to build and cultivate and trust and all of that. And so when I’m thinking about this thing of safety and some of the narratives that exist around money, whether money being evil, whether you have to work hard for money, that is not true. You don’t have to work hard. You don’t have to all of those things, right?

00:27:21
But how some of those myths get formed is because it is, I think, in some ways easier to be able to pin that on money as opposed to the time it takes to look at where did these beliefs come from? Where did this sense of lack of safety come from? And what are the things that need to be done to release those sensations or those neural patternings or those trauma histories? It’s often easier to just say it’s because of money, but it’s not. It’s because of something older.

00:28:01
I want to really double down on that. And one of the reasons why I took one year to develop the framework that I use on my programs, the Rich framework, is because we believe and I say we because I also need to work through my own shit, right? That there is a specific thing that happened with money. So I don’t know, your income got a stock you didn’t generate, but it’s not just a specific thing. It’s always a combination of everything and your brain understood it a different way.

00:28:41
So it got stuck in one place. So this of what you just said about really understanding that there are different modalities, there are different ways to go about it, that there are different roads to get to Rome and that it always can be changed and challenged. It’s so important. We have never been taught that we can challenge what we know about money. Yesterday I was having the conversation with one of my teachers at Baking University, and I told him, listen, I know you don’t believe me because I know what you taught me about money, but if you only would have introduced me to the triggers of it or the consequences of not talking about money earlier on my life.

00:29:51
I can assure you that so many headaches will have passed. And I have this conversation because he is a friend. So it’s not like I’m going to go to a district, you have to know. But really it’s something that we don’t talk about and because it comes from our parents, we’re not who is going to challenge a parent? Who are you to challenge your parents?

00:30:12
That’s the way that we grow up. And I think that’s the power of constellations as well or that’s the power that it gave me to understand it’s just oh, wait a minute, Mr. Let me tell you that you have something different going on here. So it gave me a lot of power.

00:30:34
Two things. One. Yes. Because one of the things that I also love about Constellation work, whether it’s about money or any other form of something to do with intergenerational trauma, it’s the idea that so that one of the underlying principles is that love is always flowing towards you. That abundance, good things, blessings, well wishes are always flowing towards you.

00:30:55
And when trauma hits the system somewhere, it’s when it gets clogged and craggled and messy, right? So one of the very underlying principles of constellation work is that the best version of all, the best version of us, the best version of our parents, the best version of my ancestors, the best version of everybody in the system always wants us to be well. And that when we can see that. And there’s the willingness to receive that, there’s permission to just go out into the world and be well. And so I love being able to see that, feel that, receive that.

00:31:29
And then the other thing that you said about there are things that I wish somebody had told me earlier it would have been so helpful. I think that’s also one of the things that I love about being an entrepreneur is because a lot of what we are doing is we are creating the resources and we are creating the things that we wish would have existed in the world, which I think is like a really beautiful form of abundance. It is beautiful and abundant form of abundance. I cannot express how grateful I am that I started my own business. I cannot express how happy I see my clients because I work with entrepreneurs, every time that they say yes, this is what I needed to do.

00:32:18
I know I have one client, dear Jasmine. I actually have a podcast with her, so if you want to go to that episode, I’m going to link it below because it’s amazing. But Jasmine is the most incredible soul and she, I don’t know how to describe it, but she goes every time and say no for a fact that this is going to change the wall with so much passion. And I’m like, yeah, it is going to change the world. It’s only whoever has started a business understands the development that you have to do for yourself and also for the people that is encountering your business.

00:33:07
As a business owner, I always say the intention with every social media, with every pose, with every blog, whatever is it that I do that the person that comes in touch with it is going to have it different than I did. And that has become such a mantra since early in my business. But also when I realized that so much of what I had, what I did and what created the unwellness of myself was because nobody told me that you can change the script as well. And that also comes from parents. It’s just like parents, grandparents and everybody involved because they did the best that they could.

00:34:02
And I love that you mentioned the principle of constellations that they are always give, they are acting from the best place that they can act. But it’s okay to say your best place is not my best place anymore. It doesn’t didn’t work for me anymore and I’m doing different. There.

00:34:22
Ten hundred percent around the piece of people are always doing their best. And sometimes what I’ll say is, and sometimes your best is not the best for me, or sometimes my best is not the best for you. And the other piece is I recently had somebody ask a kind of like law of attraction sort of manifestation stuff in relationship to money. And I think it’s always easier to believe something is possible once you’ve experienced the possibility of it. So for folks which haven’t experienced a certain flow of like abundance or ease or something, I always tell folks, don’t blame yourself for whatever beliefs are in there about not believing it’s possible.

00:35:09
And it is also true that something can only occur or happen if enough if enough of there are enough seeds within us that believe that something is possible or that believe that we’re able to be safe or have access or be in flow, that these truths exist at the same time. Which is why I think I’ve been thinking about how there’s different things that kind of like we need to do in terms of money things. Mindset is not the only thing. You also have to have tangible strategies and practical implementation. But they go hand in hand.

00:35:44
Because if you absolutely don’t have mindset stuff and if you don’t haven’t done healing work around money, then you’re even with all the strategy and practical implementation. You’re still going to be living in Scarcity. And you’re still going to be going through whatever the same intergenerational loops have been about how your family has moved with money. Man okay, we’re hitting the 40, 50 minutes mark, so I’m just gonna wrap it up with a question. Walk very briefly how a session of family constellations and money will look like and let us know where they can find you.

00:36:23
Good question.

00:36:28
Okay, it looks a lot of different ways. It depends. So I think there’s two ways that I work with clients with this one is individual work and one is in a group container, a healing money trauma program. And in both of them, what we do is I ask, what do you want your relationship with money to be like? You tell me, I want to feel free with money.

00:36:53
I want to trust money. I want to see money just flowing towards me everywhere in my life. And then I’ll start asking questions and collaboratively we’ll start exploring and bringing in what’s called representatives. Who are the people that have implanted beliefs and who are the people who have carried trauma in relationship to money, trauma that you may then be carrying and together. I always tell people it’s trying to describe the ocean to someone who’s only ever taken a bath.

00:37:24
It’s so magical. But basically we’ll work through until we can really find the blocks in your nervous system and release the contracts you didn’t even know you were carrying, which is still, I think, like a vague answer overall, but yo, it’s so magical. Yeah, it feels really magical in my body when I talk about it. And there’s two places people can find me. The first is my website which is Minachi.com.

00:37:52
I’m so excited. Begata like just my name, plain and simple, AC. And then the other is on Instagram which is at Wit. Minacci. Perfect.

00:38:04
Oh, beautiful. Minaji, thank you so much for being here. I absolutely adore this conversation and I’m going to link everything on the description below so you can go and find Minacci is amazing. You already experience her magic. So until next time, I will talk to you soon.

00:38:26
Just hit. So tell me a little bit of what you wanted to share today.

00:38:35
I think something that I appreciated, something that I so I always enjoy when, when I listen to people of color talk about money in a way that feels good. And I really enjoyed listening to you in the Trauma of Money class, a lot of the things that you said felt very exciting and felt very open hearted and inspiring. And then I think for me, something that I always tell my students or workshop participants is that it took a long time for me to feel in my body and in my nervous system some of the things that are told about money are true about money. A large part because I needed to see and hear some of those things coming from people who looked and sounded like me. And so then the bits and pieces I’ve heard of your money story.

00:39:36
I love the fact that money loves us. I love the fact because now when I facilitate, it shows up so clearly how much money just wants to be of service and in support of us and how money is really not out here trying to hurt anybody. And I feel like that is, I don’t know, that’s a big thing. Oh my God, I’m so happy I recorded this because I think that’s going to be it. We don’t have to name it, we don’t have to put labels.

00:40:16
I think let’s just go with it and then we will see. I’m over the moon right now with what you just said. Let me go, come back to myself and let me tell you that I’m very happy that’s the way I transmit the information and that inspire you a little bit more. Inspire you. I don’t know if that’s the correct word, but because just like you, I also was like, I’m the only black person talking about money in a positive way and I got a lot of bad comments about it too.

00:40:53
So it has been a journey as well. So I think that is worth to mention too. Okay, this is what I’m going to do. I’m going to introduce the podcast episode. I’m just going to say welcome, join us on this talk and then please introduce yourself and then we go with a conversation because this is already so juicy.

00:41:15
So let me just press here. Money conversations.

00:41:27
Changes.

00:41:30
Your life. Oh, my God. I’m really loving this episode.

00:41:37
All right, so welcome everybody, to another episode of Dia Luck. Let’s break up. Today I have the pleasure to be sharing this podcast stage with one of the persons inside of the trauma of money. The certification that I’ve been talking to you about that really spoke to me in so many different ways, more than with words, in an energetic level. So Medachi is here with us and she’s going to walk us through some interesting topics about constellations.

00:42:18
But we already started this conversation and it was like, in so many levels, mind blowing that I don’t know at the end of the day how this episode is going to be called. I don’t know what the hell we are going to say, but it’s going to be so mind blowing that you need to stay until the end. So welcome, dachshi, it’s really good to be here. Thank you for having me. I’m so excited.

00:42:45
For folks who are listening, my name is Minaji. I share her pronouns and I use a couple of different modalities. But when it comes to money, I use family constellation therapy to help people clear out a bunch of intergenerational gunk that has to do with how or why they are not allowed to have and receive and be it in alignment with money in a values oriented way. My God. I’m already want to ask you so many questions about how many constellations, but let’s just start introducing to people on your story and why you came to really do this combination that is not traditional at all with money.

00:43:27
Yeah. Okay. So my story, I think if we start in childhood, I had a good money story in childhood. I grew up in a very safe home that’s my mother was the predominant breadwinner, and she made sure everything was always taken care of for the entire family.

00:43:51
So in addition to having a sense of physical stability, I also saw the way that she moved with abundance in terms of there were often people staying in her house. My family’s from Sri Lanka, so it was at the beginning of the war, so there were often refugees who were moving through the bay area in terms of just asylum journeys. So people were always over. It felt like the home was always a place where people were welcomed to be and resources were meant to be used in support of the community. And I think the biggest thing that I saw my Amad do was that she never loaned anybody money.

00:44:25
She only ever gave. So it was really this idea of work with what you have and then when you have overflow, you can give. It’s not about trying to get it back or something like that. And my own life story, I went into the arts, I went into nonprofit. I got accustomed to living without a lot of money and also feeling really angry about the way systems are set up and the way there’s inequity in terms of access to resources.

00:45:02
And I began to get really angry about all of those things. And I think that for me, I think one of the very common money myths that is out there is that money is inherently evil. And I really began to believe that and really began to feel like that was true. And then I started working with some money coaches. I met some queer money coaches, some people queer women of color who were doing magic with money.

00:45:31
And things started to change again for me and I started to believe some of the things that I had heard about money being a neutral entity, about money being an energetic entity that really wants to show up for us as a resource. And when some of that stuff finally started integrating with my nervous system, my own abundance started to move and flow. And then as I began to facilitate work for folks, it also began to show up there where I began to see just facilitating work for folks and then having folks come back and say that they’d had the most lucrative day in their business the day after we worked together, or that they felt like, oh, my gosh, I can fight for what I believe in, and I can have access to the material stability. And the two are not at odds with each other. And that felt really good too.

00:46:28
Oh my God, I want to unpack so many things of what you just said, but especially this last part when you said that your nervous system started to embody what you already heard and knew to be something different. Right? This is so important. And right now, before jumping in this interview, I was actually recording a whole episode of the podcast about emotional regulation. And what is so is it’s the decision?

00:47:02
It’s like everything changes when you understand that your nervous system and you need to be in an emotional regulated space for you to embody what you already know with money and to give open the gates for that to change. And then you said my clients started to see that change too. I find that so fascinating because just like you, I also experienced the same when I went to school and when I had my finance degree and when I checked all the boxes to learn how to manage money. In no part of the equation was hey, there is this new layer that you need to find that you need to work with, which is your emotional side of money that triggers you, that puts that or triggers that anger within you. It’s not just about, oh, I feel anger per se.

00:48:06
It’s a topic, it’s an object that triggers you. And that emotion, it’s not even talked about. So I love that you mentioned that your nervous system started to regulate to it. So talk to us a little bit on how you really experience that regulation. Yeah, so one of the principles that I learned is that money will always amplify what’s in the system.

00:48:33
So if what’s in the individual nervous system or what’s in the intergenerational nervous system is like a flog or a knot of trauma or just any kind of we all have limiting beliefs. Doesn’t matter how much work you do.

00:48:54
So what money does is it comes into the nervous system and then it amplifies. That right. So.

00:49:04
As for my own self, as I have started getting I don’t know if I want to say good with money, but better with money, safer with money, more trusting of money. It both flows in with a lot more ease, and it flows out with a lot more ease that there is a fluidity to it, which is really what money is supposed to be like. If you think of our society or community, like a human body, blood is meant to circulate, and it’s meant to move throughout the body. It’s meant to be in nourishment, just like in the human nervous system, there are times when we need blood to move faster, like when we’re running or when there’s like, a crisis, something is going on. So there are times when the blood can just chill out, go a little bit slower, bring the heart rate down, and money is the same.

00:49:54
And I don’t know if I’m answering the question anymore because that’s just thinking about this. Love it. Love it. But I think for me, and I think for me, specifically as a small business owner, as an entrepreneur, as a self employed person, money still freaks me out sometimes. Last month, my business did 21K, which was excellent, so wonderful, so good.

00:50:19
This month, so far, I’ve probably hit $300. No, but there’s pieces of my nervous system that are like but the large majority of my nervous system now trusts and knows that things are going to come in and it’s going to be okay because I do good work and because money wants to be with me and money wants to be in the accompaniment of that work. And because I’ve seen it so much now with my clients. Because for me, just there’s a difference between how a therapist still needs a therapist. Just because there’s something that you can facilitate for somebody else, you still got to have somebody holding the space for you.

00:50:53
When I facilitate work for clients, it shows up like magic, how much money just wants to be with them and love them and support them. And it’s so beautiful to watch when that nervous system gunk does get cleared out. And I want to add something else, too, just like blood. That example, I loved how you put that example because it really is like that. It just flows, and sometimes your heart needs to pump faster, and it gives blood to run or whatever, what you said.

00:51:25
But also notice the fact that you always have blood. You never run out of it. You never ever are thinking, am I going to have enough blood or not? You are certain of that? I absolutely love this example because just like that, it’s money.

00:51:49
What would you ever think? I’m not going to walk today because I’m saving the reserves of blood for tomorrow. So I don’t know. I can do whatever tomorrow better. No, you are not thinking that.

00:52:08
You are thinking tomorrow I’m going to do this thing that I want to do and today I’m going to do this other thing that I want to do as well. So you are never thinking from a place of lack with your own blood, with your own body. Yet you are so smart and your brain is so smart with it that it gives abundantly when it has to give, when you desire, because this is the thing I say, when it has to give. But you are creating that necessity. You are telling subconsciously to your brain, I need more blood on my legs because I’m going to run.

00:52:47
So it’s giving you what it’s asking is you are asking a subconscious level without really worrying about it. I am having like a breakthrough with your example right now. I’m like, oh my gosh, I’m going to use this one from now on. I completely love it. But to the point of my question, which I already forgot, my question was how you really notice that regulation.

00:53:14
I think you have said it right. You notice it also through your clients. And this is the beauty of the work. Every female entrepreneur, especially as a woman that have small businesses, we have a roller coaster going of, okay, emotional roller coaster, mental roller coaster and a strategy roller coaster. And this is the work that I do and this is what the programs that I do are based on.

00:53:46
Because at no point we are being taught how to manage our own emotions, but also how to think. When the results that we think we are going to have, we plan we are going to have, we desire that we are going to have, don’t show up. There is a whole narrative that comes with that that unfortunately, or fortunately only it’s stronger when it’s a female entrepreneur because I have male clients and they’re like, shit, what didn’t happen? Okay, let’s try it tomorrow. It’s less emotional.

00:54:28
We are emotional beings biologically. So it is so hard and oh my God, it’s beautiful to unpack. So I want to ask you now how constellations came into this panorama of things. Okay, I have one piece, I think, and then I’m going to loop back to this question. So don’t let me forget it.

00:54:57
I was thinking about the I really like the parallel that you were making about like how our body always generates enough blood and we never think about do I need to get more blood? But we are often scrambling more resources and for money and feeling like it’s never going to be enough.

00:55:17
And some of what you were sharing about just the experiences you’ve had in gender differences of how male clients respond versus female clients and I think it’s because, again, there’s different dynamics. We’re all navigating in the world and the more marginalized our identities are, the more stressors there are and the more difficulty there can be in believing that the world really wants us here and that abundance really wants to show up for us. Which is why I think it’s so important A, to have practitioners of different ethnicities, racial backgrounds, class backgrounds, gender identities, so that you can actually it’s really different. For example, it would be different for a trans client to hear me say that money is available versus to be able to hear it from a trans coach who can really reflect their lived identity. The nervous system takes information in when we can see ourselves reflected in the truth.

00:56:26
So it’s so important to find the right resources. And the thing that’s so weird about the nervous system is that when our nervous system is really activated, it’s hard to even believe that resources are available. And I think weaving in the constellation stuff, I love family constellation work, period, because it was the first modality. Like there’s this thing that hurt people, right? And this idea that stuff when people are again, just like all the different forms of harm or impact or unkindness that can happen in a family occur, it’s because there’s something higher up in the lineage that has created the context for that.

00:57:11
And that’s like an intellectual thing. But for me, family constellation work was the first time I really felt it in my body of oh, this really isn’t about me. And there’s lots of interesting loyalties people don’t people often think that people don’t often recognize the kind of unconscious agreements that we’re often carrying to, for example, remain small or not shine or not receive. Particularly if we’ve come from lineages where there have been people who haven’t been allowed to safely receive or haven’t been allowed to safely shine or something. And so then our unconscious loyalties keep us playing small and thinking that this is how we need to behave in order to be loyal to the lineage.

00:58:02
Like I’m going to betray my ancestors if I have more then my parents never had it. We’re never able to go on vacation. And so here I am planning four vacations a year. I’m betraying my people. And I think that’s the kind of stuff that we often don’t even realize is present.

00:58:20
That constellation work really comes in and get that stuff out. Can we just talk about how much and this is part of the money story that we call right, it’s part of your money story, how much subconsciously you are taking let me rephrase that. Know how much 90% of the things that you are taking are coming from your parents. And just like you, their 90% of the things that they do with money are coming from their parents. So therefore your grandparents and so on and so forth.

00:59:01
And it just becomes this whole subconscious network of lack. If you have always been on the lack and you are subconsciously walking in the lack. And when I say lack, I don’t mean physical lack, because that is one part of it. But I also refer to the mental lack. I come from a background with a lot of mental lack.

00:59:29
My father is a fisherman from Colombia, from an island that nobody knows. And he was the first one to go out and study. All of the brothers gave up on his study so he could go to university. They took him out of the beach, he’s lovely beach. And they say, okay, you need to go on a study.

00:59:52
He went for university study as an accountant. So there is a lot of luck there because although he was the one that made it outside of the island, when he came to the city, you are just a fisherman. You are like nothing. That is mental lack. Although he created everything for himself, along with my mother and everything, there is a lot of mental lack.

01:00:23
There is a lot of you just need to save because right now that you are getting, because there is always another shoe that is going to drop, you need to be ready. And that’s the way I grew up. I didn’t lack anything physically, but mentally it’s challenging. And then if I tell you the lack that is coming from my family, from my mother’s side, it’s also mind blowing. I come from a lineage where my great grandparents I adore.

01:00:55
It was my best friend, my great grandpa. We used to sit down and tell his stories. And he never finished high school, never traveled outside of Colombia, but because of him, I travel. He used to tell me stories about how Venice looked like. And I don’t know where he read it, I don’t know.

01:01:16
It was his imagination. But Venice looks exactly like he would tell me. I got a lot of abundance from that side. But it was a family of 13 kids surviving with whatever the ground like in that moment in Colombia, it wasn’t like you make a lot of money and 13 kids. It’s no money.

01:01:43
It’s a lot of money with 13 kids. It’s so interesting. I really had to learn about that to allow myself to do different. And I think that’s also the power on family constellations. Really.

01:02:07
May I ask a question? Yes, go for it. Did your dad want to become an accountant? Did he want to leave the island?

01:02:19
I can answer the question two levels. Subconsciously he did. But at this point he wants to return he doesn’t want to be the fisherman. He wants to be the person that he is right now living at his speech, which is not possible right now for different reasons. But, yeah, that’s part of this story that I also had to embrace and work for him because he would never do this work.

01:02:57
I lat my dad also comes from a fishing village. And I think by the time nobody in his generation were fisher folk, but one generation above, they were. And there is am also became an accountant, and he hated it. Hate, disaster. It wasn’t that the vibe was not right for his life path.

01:03:23
And there’s this thing that happens when we’re moving from scarcity as opposed to moving from desire. Right. And I don’t know if this is necessarily true for you, but I know that in my bus case, he was told by his older brother that this was what he needed to do or that he had his dreams of what he wanted to do. And because of what was deemed appropriate at the time and safe, responsible, et cetera, his older brother, who was at that point the caretaker of the family, said, no, if you do any of those things, you’ll be cut off and you won’t have access to resources. And so he made the safer or responsible choice.

01:04:04
He cut himself off from his dreams, and it has a really disastrous ending because he’s been so unhappy for the rest of his life. And when we think about choices that are made and this is often the things that happens, or it’s like the work that we’re looking at in family constellation, work of what are the ways that you have made choices for somebody else’s sake in the lineage? Because this is what your parents said, or this was the dream of somebody else, somebody else dreamt of getting out of the village and living this kind of big life. But that’s not actually what you want. But what you want is you want to be able to travel or you want to be able to do this, or you just want to stay and be a fisher person.

01:04:45
You’re good. And then the thing that happens is that scarcity gets embedded in the system. And how you were saying right then, even though you didn’t actually physically grow up with scarcity, there was always that scarcity in the brain. Because, again, I think because that’s what happens when we’re moving from fear as opposed to moving from desire, opposed to moving from trust, as opposed to moving from, really the belief that the universe wants us here and that the universe is on our side and that money, resources, love, whatever it is, all of those things want to be here for us.

01:05:23
Yes. I couldn’t agree more with everything that you’re saying. And I think for my father, my father is not a person that I talk a lot because he is very close for what I know of his story, he did want to become an accountant. And you can see, right, this is what he wanted to be. However, I don’t know if the place is where he wanted to be.

01:05:51
In an ideal world, he will be his profession, doing whatever he wanted to do back on his town. And I feel that in so many levels, because now that I travel a lot, we got a point where I would say it would be so nice to be back home with your family or your customs. It’s a very stupid example, very simple, but sometimes I just want to go to my mom’s house and know that I’m going to find rice with eggs, which is my favorite plate, and nobody’s going to look at me like, are you with eggs? Yes, I’m Colombia. That’s the best dish that you can have.

01:06:32
Right. And you cannot get that from anywhere else, which is not your house, your home, your customs. I understand that in so many levels, but also traveling has opened my mind to understand that the moment that you leave, your identity changes as well. So when you go back, it’s not like you’re going to fit in, right? So it’s also understanding the differences.

01:07:01
And it’s the same for him. He says, oh, I want to go back to my beach. Whenever he gets the time to go there after, I don’t know, a month or two, he says, okay, I’m missing my home. So he goes back. So I think it’s a part of different layers there.

01:07:17
But one of the things that I really resonated with you on what you just shared was the fact that everybody is poorly, like putting their own beliefs or subconsciously, of course, it’s not like consciously this. They are transmitting their desires and their beliefs somehow in your home brain, in your own being, and it’s up to you whether you take them on or not. And this is huge with money. It’s like it’s a whole new world when you understand that people subconsciously, they’re just talking to themselves always. It’s always like that.

01:08:09
But you are not really talking. You’re not really telling me what to do because you are thinking from my being. There’s no way that you can do that. You are talking from your experience, what was truth for you. And then you as a person receiving that information, can make a decision.

01:08:34
However, because money is so taboo and nobody has questioned it ever before, you take that information as truth, and you don’t put your gates up and say, wait, I understand that this person is coming from this background, and that’s why it was truth for, let’s say, my father. He has lived these experiences, and this belief was what he needed to survive, right? It’s not truth for me anymore because thanks to that, now I’m in a different situation.

01:09:17
I love this. And the thing that popped for me. Is how much we’re always looking for safety, how much, right? The nervous system, the heart is always looking for a sense of both belonging and safety. And one of the things that I so the other modality that I use is nonviolent communication.

01:09:42
And one of the things that I teach there is that money is not necessarily an inherent need, but it is a strategy to get needs met. And that in our current world, it is a strategy that meets the need for ease. Because in the absence of having money, what we need is relationship. And relationship takes time to build and cultivate and trust and all of that. And so when I’m thinking about this thing of safety and some of the narratives that exist around money, whether money being evil, whether you have to work hard for money that is not true.

01:10:19
You don’t have to work hard, you don’t have to all of those things, right? But how some of those myths get formed is because it is, I think, in some ways easier to be able to pin that on money as opposed to the time it takes to look at where did these beliefs come from? Where did this sense of lack of safety come from? And what are the things that need to be done to release those sensations or those neural patternings or those trauma histories? It’s often easier to just say it’s because of money, but it’s not.

01:11:01
It’s because of something older. I want to really double down on that. And one of the reasons why I took one year to develop the framework that I use on my programs, the rich framework, is because we believe and I say we because I also need to work through my own shit, right? That there is a specific thing that happened with money. So I don’t know, your income got a stock you didn’t generate, but it’s not just a specific thing.

01:11:39
It’s always a combination of everything. And your brain understood it a different way, so it got stuck in one place. So this of what you just said about really understanding that there are different modalities, there are different ways to go about it, that there are different roads to get to Rome and that it always can be changed and challenged. It’s so important. We have never been taught that we can challenge what we know about money.

01:12:25
That is something that like today, I was not today. Yesterday I was having the conversation with one of my teachers at Bakken University, and I told him, listen, I know you don’t believe me because I know what you taught me about money, but if you only would have introduced me to the triggers of it or the consequences of not talking about money earlier on my life. I can assure you that so many headaches will have passed. And I have this conversation because he is a friend. So it’s not like I’m going to go to a district, you have to know.

01:13:09
But really it’s something that we don’t talk about and because it comes from our parents, we’re not who is going to challenge a parent? Who are you to challenge your parents? That’s the way that we grow up. And I think that’s the power of Constellations as well. Or that’s the power that it gave me to understand it’s just oh, wait a minute, Mr.

01:13:34
Let me tell you that you have something different going on here. So it gave me a lot of power.

01:13:43
Okay, two things. One. Yes. Because one of the things that I also love about Constellation work, whether it’s about money or any other form of something to do with intergenerational trauma, it’s the idea that so that one of the underlying principles is that love is always flowing towards you. That abundance, good things, blessings, well wishes are always flowing towards you.

01:14:04
And when trauma hits the system somewhere, it’s when it gets clogged and craggled and messy. Right? So one of the very underlying principles of Constellation Work is that the best version of all, the best version of us, the best version of our parents, the best version of our ancestors, the best version of everybody in the system always wants us to be well. And that when we can see that and there’s the willingness to receive that. There’s permission to just go out into the world and be well.

01:14:34
And so I love being able to see that, feel that, receive that. And then the other thing that you said about there are things that I wish somebody had told me earlier. It would have been so helpful. I think that’s also one of the things that I love about being an entrepreneur is because a lot of what we are doing is we are creating the resources and we are creating the things that we wish would have existed in the world, which I think is like a really beautiful form of abundance. It is beautiful and abundant form of abundance.

01:15:11
I cannot express how grateful I am that I started my own business. I cannot express how happy I see my clients because I work with entrepreneurs, every time that they say yes, this is what I needed to do. I know I have one client, dear Jasmine, I actually have a podcast with her so if you want to go to that episode, I’m going to link it below because it’s amazing. But Jasmine is the most incredible soul and she I don’t know how to describe it, but she goes every time and say no for a fact that this is going to change the world with so much passion. And I’m like, yeah, it is going to change the wall.

01:16:00
It’s only whoever has started a business understands the development that you have to do for yourself and also for the people that is encountering your business. As a business owner, I always say the intention with every social media, with every pose, with every blog, whatever is it that I do that the person that comes in touch with it is going to have it different than I did. And that has become such a mantra since early in my business. But also when I realized that so much of what I had, what I did and what created the unwellness of myself was because nobody told me that you can change the script as well. And that also comes from parents.

01:17:03
It’s just like parents, grandparents and everybody involved because they did the best that they could. And I love that you mentioned the principle of constellations that they are acting from the best place that they can act. But it’s okay to say your best place is not my best place anymore. It didn’t work for me anymore and I’m doing different. There.

01:17:31
Ten hundred percent around the piece of people are always doing their best and sometimes what I’ll say is, and sometimes your best is not the best for me or sometimes my best is not the best for you. And the other piece is I recently had somebody ask a kind of like law of attraction sort of manifestation stuff in relationship to money. And I think it’s always easier to believe something is possible once you’ve experienced the possibility of it. So for folks which haven’t experienced a certain flow of abundance or ease or something, I always tell folks, don’t blame yourself for whatever beliefs are in there about not believing it’s possible. And it is also true that something can only occur or happen if enough, if enough of there are enough seeds within us that believe that something is possible or that believe that we’re able to be safe or have access or be in flow that these truths exist at the same time.

01:18:40
Which is why I think there’s I’ve been thinking about how there’s different things that kind of like we need to do in terms of money things. Mindset is not the only thing. You also have to have tangible strategies and practical implementation. But they go hand in hand. Because if you absolutely don’t have mindset stuff, and if you don’t haven’t done healing work around money, then even with all the strategy and practical implementation, you’re still going to be living in Scarcity and you’re still going to be going through whatever the same intergenerational loops have been about how your family has moved with money.

01:19:14
Man okay, we’re hitting the 40 50 minutes mark, so I’m just going to wrap it up with a question. Walk very briefly how a session of family constellations and money will look like and let us know where they can find you. Good question.

01:19:37
Okay, it looks a lot of different ways. It depends. So I think there’s two ways that I work with clients with this one is individual work and one is in a group container healing money trauma program and in both of them. What we do is I ask, what do you want your relationship with money to be like? You tell me, I want to feel free with money.

01:20:02
I want to trust money. I want to see money just flowing towards me everywhere in my life. And then I’ll start asking questions and collaboratively we’ll start exploring and bringing in what’s called representatives. Who are the people that have implanted beliefs and who are the people who have carried trauma in relationship to money. Trauma that you may then be carrying and together.

01:20:29
I always tell people it’s trying to describe the ocean to someone who’s only ever taken a bath. It’s so magical. But basically we’ll work through until we can really find the blocks in your nervous system and release the contracts you didn’t even know you were carrying, which is still, I think, like a vague answer overall, but yo, it’s so magical. Yeah, it feels really magical in my body when I talk about it. And there’s two places people can find me.

01:20:58
The first is my website, which is Minaji.com. I’m so excited they got that like just my name, plain and simple.

01:21:07
And then the other is on Instagram, which is at Wits. Minacci. Perfect. Oh, beautiful. Minaji, thank you so much for being here.

01:21:17
I absolutely adore this conversation and I’m going to link everything on the description below so you can go. And Minaji is amazing. I couldn’t you already experience her magic?